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Too expensive for fire safety?

Postby Jeff Marinelli » Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:15 pm

City: Increasing Fire Department staffing not financially responsible

Jul 23 at 2:01 AM

Posted Jul 23, 2017 at 2:01 AM
Dear Canandaigua Community,

Early in the morning on Thursday, July 13, the City lost one of its favorite restaurants, Nolan’s, due to a fire. Everyone is grateful for all of the men and women who serve our community as career and volunteer firefighters. These dedicated people came from nearly every corner of Ontario County to help. While this property is a loss, there were no injuries or loss of life.

Some members of the community have expressed concern about levels of staffing in the Canandaigua Fire Department. There is now an appeal for more staffing of the Fire Department to have four firefighters on duty 24/7. Many in the community are asking questions that we, city officials, hope to answer in this letter. City Officials work diligently to maintain a safe environment and high quality of life in Canandaigua while remaining fiscally responsible. The City has an ongoing review process in regard to the departments that protect our safety. The City Council reviewed the Fire Department staffing in April 2017.

Fire service data review

From 2007-2016, 91 percent of the calls responded to by the Canandaigua Fire Department did not involve a fire. The national trend reflects a similar trend of a decrease of structure fires.

7 percent of the calls were for fires; 66 percent of these were for confined fires (i.e. a cooking pan fire that is put out on the stove); and 34 percent were for non-confined fires (more serious fires).

On average, during the 10-year period studied, a non-confined fire occurs 1.41 times per month, and for residential structures, that number is 0.93 per month

As required for all municipalities, the city is evaluated by the insurance industry to provide a Public Protection Classification (PPC). The City’s rating increased slightly during the past decade from 64.43 in 2005 to 64.55 in 2016. As such, the community’s risk or fire mitigation efforts have not changed significantly, as determined by ISO, as a result of the staffing changes in the Fire Department.

Fire Department staffing

Current Staffing:


The Canandaigua City Fire Department is a combination department consisting of volunteers and career staff.

The Fire Department currently staffs two on-duty firefighters 24/7. One is at Station 1 on Main Street, and one is at Station 2 on North Main Street.

At certain times, the staffing is supplemented by student volunteers.

When a structure fire occurs, volunteers and off-duty firefighters are called to the scene.

In 2016, the Fire Department staff cost was $1,503,885.62. (This number does not include other Fire Department expenses such as equipment, trucks, repairs, etc.)

City Officials have determined that increasing on-duty staff at the Canandaigua Fire Department is not financially responsible.
In order to staff the stations with two on-duty firefighters 24/7, the city would have to double the size of the department from nine to 18 firefighters.
The cost result would be a 19.42 percent tax levy increase totaling $962,367 in year one.
For a $150,000 home, this increase would equate to $205 annually.

We on City Council hear your concerns and appreciate your suggestions. Moving forward, we will redouble our efforts to work with city management and the Canandaigua Fire Department to focus on:

Recruiting and training additional volunteer firefighters.

Increasing participation in the student-firefighter’s program.

Maintaining and improving cooperative relationships with the VA Fire Department and surrounding volunteer fire companies.

Continuing fire code inspections and aggressively enforcing correction of violations.

Introducing innovative firefighting techniques.

Offering community safety education programs

Sincerely,


Ellen Polimeni, mayor
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Re: Too expensive for fire safety?

Postby TomsDad2 » Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:53 pm

Ignoring OSHA regs and Fire Safety recommendations, is this the beginning of the end of Queen Ellen's public life?

After the last Mistake By The Lake (aka The Birdcage) it looks like a step in that direction.

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Re: Too expensive for fire safety?

Postby Jeff Marinelli » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:00 pm

If people die in a preventable fire, what will be the position then?
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Re: Too expensive for fire safety?

Postby Upset Business Owner » Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:24 pm

Will it be the end of the Queens rule, I doubt it. Unless a canadate surfaces to run against her and unless the voters and residents of Canandaigua keep the heat on her she will be the elected.

If I had the money I would publish the facebook post that is mentioned in a minions comment on Julie Sherwoods July 18 mpn story " We knew it could happen" .

That post puts the ISO standards on paper and how it could have led to the total loss at Nolans.

Hate to say it but the owner clearly has grounds for a hefty lawsuit(s) against the City. Maybe Genecco will get our tax money he wants to finsh his bird cage.

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Re: Too expensive for fire safety?

Postby Tired Old Man » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:23 pm

Jeff Marinelli wrote:If people die in a preventable fire, what will be the position then?

Business decisions are all about risk every day.

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Re: Too expensive for fire safety?

Postby ajsuff » Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:54 am

Last week at a large gathering of people here in Canandaigua, many people spoke of many current things. One was Nolan's. There were people from all economic situations. One topic was Nolan's fire, and concern of a number there regarding the Fire Chief "Cosmetic" rendering of renovations, and whether the Insurance Company would buy it, and be far more critical. Whether sprinklers should have been installed when "Cosmetic" renovations were undertaken, is something that may concern the insurance company.

Other issues spoken was on the money tree in Albany, in passing out taxpayers money like sailors on shore leave, to local and regional info-tonics, where jobs and companies coming to NY is questionable; giving off tax write offs to companies and newly built stores (corporate welfare check), and a huge amount of others. Also some had info regarding on the bird cage and said some nationwide hotel chains (3 I believe was said) were very interested, but they wanted no other players involved. Again whether this is true, I have no idea. Of course, I enjoyed listening to all this. In my long ago years in politics, I've seen this go on on often in local politics.

Maybe other MINIONS have heard some of these events as well. If so, maybe some can go further with more info on some of this. Again, I'm a good listener.
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