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Obama Openly Supports Socialism

Postby TomsDad » Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:00 am

Obama: Corporate Profits "Have To Be Shared By American Workers"

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Re: Obama Openly Supports Socialism

Postby Jeff Marinelli » Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:01 am

I agree!!!!!!!
Don't blame me! I voted for Bernie!

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Re: Obama Openly Supports Socialism

Postby TomsDad » Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:07 am

Jeff Marinelli wrote:I agree!!!!!!!

I thought that you were an Obama supporter. Now you're saying that he really is a Socialist?
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Re: Obama Openly Supports Socialism

Postby ajsuff » Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:10 am

No different than NYS employees and retirees huh. Let's spread it around and everyone have the same.

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Re: Obama Openly Supports Socialism

Postby TomsDad » Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:19 am

ajsuff wrote:No different than NYS employees and retirees huh. Let's spread it around and everyone have the same.

-Aj

As usual, AJ, you miss the point.

Or are you admitting to be a Socialist, too?
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Re: Obama Openly Supports Socialism

Postby Mama Loca » Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:25 am

TomsDad wrote:Obama: Corporate Profits "Have To Be Shared By American Workers"

What's so bad about sharing the profits with those that make them possible?

Yes I know "Share Holders" have more cash at stake, but seriously, why is it so acceptable that the folks at the top make so much more than those at the bottom? I would think that is should be a matter of honor to make sure everyone who has a hand in making the money get a fair share. When did it become acceptable for a CEO to make 200X's what the lowest paid employee makes.

Certainly I don't begrudge the best and the brightest being paid what they are worth, but seriously, where would that CEO be without the workers who make and sell his product? If that CEO, Shareholder, or executive doesn't care who they walk over to get their fortune, where does that leave the worker who can not afford even the basics to survive without having to ask for some assistance.

No I don't think that "Everyone" should make the same amount of money. Yes, I do think that those who are in such a position should be honorable and make sure everyone in their employ able to share in those profits that they help create and reduce the burden on the US Tax payer.
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Re: Obama Openly Supports Socialism

Postby TomsDad » Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:39 am

Can't wait for Upset Business Owner to weigh in on this.

You folks totally miss the point of "risk/reward" and you are totally free to start your own business or become an investor in a business.

You want the reward with no risk.
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Re: Obama Openly Supports Socialism

Postby Mama Loca » Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:04 am

TomsDad wrote:You folks totally miss the point of "risk/reward" and you are totally free to start your own business or become an investor in a business.

You want the reward with no risk.

Not at all, did you read what I wrote? Or do you just believe that the Status Quo is OK?
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Re: Obama Openly Supports Socialism

Postby TomsDad » Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:29 am

Socialism Lite.
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Re: Obama Openly Supports Socialism

Postby Starlight » Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:55 am

Mama Loca wrote:
TomsDad wrote:Obama: Corporate Profits "Have To Be Shared By American Workers"

What's so bad about sharing the profits with those that make them possible?

Yes I know "Share Holders" have more cash at stake, but seriously, why is it so acceptable that the folks at the top make so much more than those at the bottom? I would think that is should be a matter of honor to make sure everyone who has a hand in making the money get a fair share. When did it become acceptable for a CEO to make 200X's what the lowest paid employee makes.

Certainly I don't begrudge the best and the brightest being paid what they are worth, but seriously, where would that CEO be without the workers who make and sell his product? If that CEO, Shareholder, or executive doesn't care who they walk over to get their fortune, where does that leave the worker who can not afford even the basics to survive without having to ask for some assistance.

No I don't think that "Everyone" should make the same amount of money. Yes, I do think that those who are in such a position should be honorable and make sure everyone in their employ able to share in those profits that they help create and reduce the burden on the US Tax payer.


Businesses do share the profits with those who make them possible; it is called a paycheck! Yes there are a lot of minimum wage level jobs out there but that is because they are low-skilled primarily entry-level jobs. Those jobs were never intended to feed a family. Probably all of us started out at one. The idea is to get the skills so that you can move up to a better job and someday start a family.

High- Risk – High Reward - You say that everyone who has a hand in making the money should get their fair share. But what is a fair share? The business person took the risk by invested their hard earned money and they worked hard to make the business successful. Therefore they deserve to be rewarded more than a person who takes a job and works 40 hours and goes home and forgets about it.

As for the CEO, they didn’t just go to college and come out and get hired as CEOs. The majority of them worked their way up the corporate ladder. If they hadn’t they wouldn’t know how to run a business. Yes they may have started out as low-level management instead of the production line but that is because they invested in a good education and worked hard.
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Re: Obama Openly Supports Socialism

Postby Mama Loca » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:35 am

The Status Quo is OK.
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Re: Obama Openly Supports Socialism

Postby TomsDad » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:41 am

Mama Loca wrote:The Status Quo is OK.

Welcome to capitalism.
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Re: Obama Openly Supports Socialism

Postby Mama Loca » Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:02 pm

TomsDad wrote:
Mama Loca wrote:The Status Quo is OK.

Welcome to capitalism.

Capitalism or Feudalism?
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Re: Obama Openly Supports Socialism

Postby TomsDad » Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:09 am

Mama Loca wrote:Capitalism or Feudalism?

Feudalism? Hardly! You are perfectly free to get off that bus and open a candy store, start a maid service, run a needlepoint store, open a gun shop, be a sportsman's guide . . . . anything that you desire . . . . . then you can be the boss and rake in the profits from such an endeavor (or suffer the losses).

Don't complain while you have practically unlimited options. No one likes a whiner except another whiner.
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